King Street / Amtrak Coach Yard

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#1
I'm going to start a new thread because the "Seattle Construction" thread is getting too long. With the removal of the Royal Brougham crossing panels, it can't be to far off before track improvements begin. According to the WSDOT website the project is to be completed by 2011.

Photo 1, the forman putting up the red flages as Cascades #510 moves into the station.

Photo 2, the crew is unscrewing the bolts.

Photo 3, same thing. This is the last photo taken from the parking garge before I was asked to leave because photography "is suspicoius activity".

Photo 4, so I moved to public property, this is from the SR519 overpass.

-KristopherJ
 
#2
Sorry about the chain link fence, but these three photos are from public property.

The Swingmaster lifted the panels and the excavator in the slot train stacked them inside. Clearence was tight for the excavator under the new Royal Brougham Street overpass.

-KristopherJ
 

ES44AC

What is your malfunction?
#3
Kinda hard to deal with those chain link fences, I noticed you decided to climb up on one of those ecology blocks to get some height over the fence.:D
 
#4
Kinda hard to deal with those chain link fences, I noticed you decided to climb up on one of those ecology blocks to get some height over the fence.:D
It was good seeing you guys again. That jersy barrier really helped out giving me some height. I should have bought a ladder.

Did you guys get both mains and the Lander main done? I would have come back after lunch but there was too much traffic with the game going on.

-Kristopher
 

ES44AC

What is your malfunction?
#5
We did get both mains done and the Lander isn't completely done, i'm not sure if were going to remove some from the leads.
We will be back to complete the job next weekend.
 

BNSFEng

Locomotive Engineer!!!
#6
We did get both mains done and the Lander isn't completely done, i'm not sure if were going to remove some from the leads.
We will be back to complete the job next weekend.
If you removed them from the leads Amtrak would have a COW! They use them to bring lots of stuff to the passenger trains, the mechanics and electricians carts and to get the crews back and forth from King Street Station to their offices in their van!!!
 

ES44AC

What is your malfunction?
#7
There are some paint markings on both leads crossings but I don't know what they are, something was mentioned about leaving some on for their access.
 
#8
Some progess has been made on the Amtrak/Sounder coach yard.

Looking north from the overpass a new crosover has been installed. Two LH turnouts have been installed; one you see in this photo and the other is directly under the overpass.

Looking south, another crossover has been installed, and the 2 trucks are parked on another LH turnout.

The last photo is from Holgate Street, a pile driver is working on what I assume will be a new engine faclility.

-KristopherJ
 
#9
On Saturday I went down to Seattle see the progress on the Amtrak coach yard.

The first photo is looking north. The new track tieing into old Main 2 looks to be completed except for the ballest regulator needs to do some work.

Looking south into the coach yard a new building is taking shape. Does any know if it will have a drop pit? Are drop pits still used/needed?

The last photo is more track work.

-KristopherJ
 

BNSFEng

Locomotive Engineer!!!
#10
On Saturday I went down to Seattle see the progress on the Amtrak coach yard.

The first photo is looking north. The new track tieing into old Main 2 looks to be completed except for the ballest regulator needs to do some work.

Looking south into the coach yard a new building is taking shape. Does any know if it will have a drop pit? Are drop pits still used/needed?

The last photo is more track work.

-KristopherJ
No drop pit that I know of. Still used at the Interbay Round House for traction motors of engines. If you look closely you can see that Track 3 goes all the way through and is supported by steel beams throughout the building's foot print. They will be able to work under the passenger cars. Don't know if they will install any cranes on the inside.

On the track work side, you can compare your previous shots and see how the old lead 2 is totally gone and all of the old Main 2 is now Lead 2. There is going to be Track 2 in the next building they will build next to the current one being built. They moved the old Track 1 over and put a new switch in up near Royal Brougham. That removed a severe curve going toward the wash rack and opened up some space. They installed another north crossover so that Amtrak can move trains from Tracks 2 - 9 over to or from KS 3 - 7 on Lead 1 while we move about on Lead 2 from KS 1 or 2 down towards or from the wash rack on Track 1. Still more track work to do in the future.
 
#11
On the "BNSF Track Project" thread, BNSFEng mentioned that the King Street Station Track Project (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/projects/rail/kingstreetstation/) began at the first of this year. I stopped by this morning to see what was going on. I was hoping to see track panel and switch panel lying around, but nothing.

Photo 1: I have not seen the final plans for the project, but this is what I think it will look like. There are suppose to be about a half-dozen double-slips installed. Back in 2008 when BNSF moved the main lines, I heared from WSDOT that the new track arrangement will handle 7 train movements at one time.

Photo 2: the only thing I noticed were orange lines around the signals, and went all the way south toward CP Stadium.

-KristopherJ
 

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#12
At the south end of the Coach Yard, between the locomotive shed and office building, two new stub track have been built. I saw Railworks building a turnout at the north end under the Safeco Field roof.
 
#13
Thanks Mark. I didn't look under the roof, that's probably the only place to store track panels. I'll half to keep checking back to see when they get close to being installed.

-KristopherJ
 

BNSFEng

Locomotive Engineer!!!
#14
Thanks Mark. I didn't look under the roof, that's probably the only place to store track panels. I'll half to keep checking back to see when they get close to being installed.

-KristopherJ
I have copies of the track plans south of Royal Brougham. The first two tracks laid down south of Holgate are the first two of another two that will be laid down next to the new Amtrak building. A new Engine Facility is to be built south of the main Amtrak building after a present building is demolished and then the other two tracks can be built. Eventually, all four tracks will connect with current tracks on the north side. The city will be negotiated with to fully close Holgate to through traffic since we will have more movements across the street. We need the extra tracks for our Sounder trains since we are adding another train later this year and two storage tracks we use will be removed from service for the engine facility's use.

I've talked to Amtrak officials about the final design for the King Street track modifications and was told they are in flux but some highlights are extending tracks 6 and 7 north to the same length as tracks 4 & 5. Adding a platform D alongside track 7 extending platforms B & C. The FRA wants the BNSF to change all the track numbers at King Street from 1-7 to 3-9. A new platform on the East side of Main 2 was also planned but I don't know if it's still in the plan. The scissors switches are going to be installed south of the platforms and CTC each track so there will be no more hand throws at the station.

About new switches in the area, I've seen a bunch of gondolas last month that included scissor switches that had been on storage tracks on the west side. They were unloaded but I couldn't find them after a brief search.
 
#15
About new switches in the area, I've seen a bunch of gondolas last month that included scissor switches that had been on storage tracks on the west side. They were unloaded but I couldn't find them after a brief search.
These might have been all the new turnouts for Main 3 construction between Black River and Glacier Park. We had them all over the place in 2nd Ave Yard, Lander Ramp track and a few in 7th Ave Yard. These have all been unloaded on the south end. Some swing nose frogs in there too.
 

BNSFEng

Locomotive Engineer!!!
#16
These might have been all the new turnouts for Main 3 construction between Black River and Glacier Park. We had them all over the place in 2nd Ave Yard, Lander Ramp track and a few in 7th Ave Yard. These have all been unloaded on the south end. Some swing nose frogs in there too.
Looking forward to some more photos of that construction area, Mark. With Daylight Savings Time coming up this weekend, there's more light to see all of the progress after normal working hours!
 
#17
I stopped by King Street Station Friday morning to see what has going on.
Photo 1, new rail is being laid on Track 7. I didn't think that rail was that old, Track 7 is used mostly to store cars.
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Photo 2, a close-up of the excavator working. After looking more closely to the photo, it looks like Track 6 ties into the old main 1. Didn't it tie into Track 7?
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Photo 3, from the sidewalk of 4th Ave. work has been done for extending the old main 2 up to Track 1 or Track 2.
KSS-13.jpg

Photo 4, a close-up view. Now you can see the new LH turnout for Track 6. The old main 1 is not straight anymore.
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-KristopherJ
 
#18
Where would the control panel for the station switches, be located? I'm guessing since it's going to be all electrically driven, that some kind of interlocking logic is involved, and that BNSF dispatching wouldn't be in direct control of the station switches (though certainly with the mainline switching and signaling). Who has control of the service yard tracks and switches?

I'm kind of expecting to see a new batch of dwarf signals, rather than towers or bridges.
 
#19
Where would the control panel for the station switches, be located? I'm guessing since it's going to be all electrically driven, that some kind of interlocking logic is involved, and that BNSF dispatching wouldn't be in direct control of the station switches (though certainly with the mainline switching and signaling). Who has control of the service yard tracks and switches?

I'm kind of expecting to see a new batch of dwarf signals, rather than towers or bridges.
I was wondering the same thing. Will Seattle Terminal DS control these new power switches? Or someone else?
Years ago (and maybe still today) trains would ask Stacy Street Yard master which track at UD they were to take.

-KristopherJ
 

BNSFEng

Locomotive Engineer!!!
#20
According to an unnamed source, there will be portions of this cut in in August and EVERY track leaving the station will be CTC so the Seattle Terminal Dispatcher will be controlling the signals and switches. There's even a powered switch on Lead 2 to track one or Lead two in the yard at Royal Brougham. That switch is currently hand thrown with the drawf signal only controlling northbound movement out of the yard.
Track 7 will have a platform installed.
 



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